Who tops more, Draco or Harry?
Mar. 18th, 2015 01:32 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Yesterday I was having a discussion with vaysh about who tops more in fanfic, Draco or Harry (link here). I was of the opinion that it seemed fairly balanced, but that was from my perspective of mostly reading recent fic. Vaysh has been reading Drarry fanfiction for much longer than me, however, and she disagreed:
"statistical evidence is very clear: There is in no way a 50:50 balance between top and bottom!Draco fanworks. For many people, bottom!Draco remains the default."
Aha, I thought, a statistical challenge! As it turns out, I have a database of Drarry fics which I can consult, so I am in position to offer an answer to this pressing question. There are nearly 1500 Drarry fics written between 2002 and 2015 for which I have information about who tops or bottoms, and according to this data, we're both right :)
- Who bottoms more across all fics in all years?
Answer: Draco, clearly (pointvaysh)
- Has the proportion of bottom!Draco to bottom!Harry begun to balance out more in recent years?
Answer: Yes, clearly (pointsnowgall)
Before I get to the fancy chart and graphs, let me explain a bit where my data comes from and how reliable and/or biased it could be.
My list of Drarry fics includes not just fics that I have personally read, but also every fic that capitu has ever recced, as well as every fic ever recced at
hd_storyroom, whether I've read them or not. Capitu (at
my_drarry_recs) helpfully includes tags indicating who bottoms in a fic (if applicable) so I have that data even for fics I haven't read. I have also included many (but not all) of the fics recced by
gracerene, who also includes top/bottom info. The chart below only contains data from fics where I could determine something about who tops or bottoms.
Of course, for fics not recced by capitu or hd-storyroom, which fics get listed in my database will be skewed by my own reading preferences. However, it's important to note that I personally don't care who tops or bottoms, so I don't think that I will have unintentionally skewed the data one way or the other.
The other big issue concerns the date a fic was published. The vast majority of the fics in my database are fics written since 2007, and precious few written before 2005. But I also should point out that if I can't accurately date a fic, then I'm not including it in this dataset. The earlier a fic was written, the harder it can be to find its pub date, so part of the reason there are so few pre-2005 fics is because I can't be sure when they were actually written.
Ok, enough caveats about the data, on to the chart! I hope it is self-explanatory, because I'm not going to waste more words explaining something you can see for yourself :) Just note that I'm including fics from 2015 too, even though we're only 3 months in.
Year | bottom!Draco | bottom!Harry | switching | no penetration | Total |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2015 | 9 | 8 | 3 | 27 | 47 |
2014 | 70 | 70 | 26 | 85 | 251 |
2013 | 97 | 55 | 16 | 64 | 232 |
2012 | 67 | 57 | 8 | 29 | 161 |
2011 | 49 | 33 | 15 | 42 | 139 |
2010 | 54 | 36 | 12 | 32 | 134 |
2009 | 58 | 26 | 11 | 31 | 126 |
2008 | 75 | 32 | 7 | 20 | 134 |
2007 | 54 | 22 | 14 | 16 | 106 |
2006 | 27 | 11 | 10 | 9 | 57 |
2005 | 26 | 10 | 14 | 15 | 65 |
2004 | 11 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 21 |
2003 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 14 |
2002 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 |
Overall | 606 | 368 | 140 | 376 | 1490 |
And now for some pretty pie charts:










As you can see, before 2010 bottom!Draco was much more common than bottom!Harry, but since then the proportion of bottom!Draco fics has gone down, to the point that of the works I've analyzed for 2014, there's a perfect balance between the two!
Is the influence of the dracotops_harry fest part of the reason for this change? It's possible. The DTH fest began in 2011, and my data seems to date the gradual shift to 2010.
It's also true that some of the disparity could be traced to a few big-name authors who tend(ed) to prefer one dynamic over another. Here's just a few examples I know of authors who seemed to prefer bottom!Draco but who haven't written as much in the last few years:
ladyvader, active approx 2003 - 2010
jennavere, active approx 2004 - 2006
pir8fancier, active approx 2004 - 2013
silentauror, active approx 2005 - 2009
There are many more bottom!Draco authors who are still actively writing HD, among them: enchanted_jae,
oldenuf2nb, and
samaelthekind.
But interestingly, I can only think of one long-time author who seems to prefer bottom!Harry: megyal.
(Edit: vaysh pointed out that
lomonaaeren is also a bottom!Harry author. My bad!)
If you have any insights into this data, disagree about my analysis, or can think of something I missed, please leave a comment!
Edit: Inspired by suggestions in the comments section, I have re-run the numbers using just data from the hd_fan_fair fests. See my write-up here. The data was collected through crowd-sourcing, and we are currently working on building a second crowd-sourced spreadsheet of data from
hd_smoochfest too!
no subject
Date: 2015-03-20 10:37 am (UTC)She reads primarily on ff.net and in her experience they either switch or Harry tops.
That is my impression as well.
I read on AO3 and would say they mostly switch or do other stuff ...
I am wholly intrigued by your impression that anal penetration has gone down over all. My impression is rather the opposite: it feels like every fic now needs to have anal penetration, and everything else is just foreplay. (*envisions statistical scenarios for that question* ;))
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Date: 2015-03-20 11:05 pm (UTC)I wonder if it could be crowd sourced? One person (or group of people) would have to determine the initial sample to make sure it was sound – no duplicates among fics that were posted in more than one archive, removing/replacing fics where H/D are a side pairing and don’t have sex, etc. And there would have to be a clear definition of what constituted topping, bottoming, switching, or other (I think this is doable, but others on this thread seem to think it would be difficult). But then, if we opened it up to the fandom and anyone who wanted to contribute could read as many of the randomly selected fics as they wanted and enter the data themselves…that might be markedly more feasible.
And if we also asked people to collect other data – length, warnings, tags, use of tropes, etc. – I mean, imagine how much analysis would be possible?
(Date would, I think, be trickiest, for reasons snowgall mentions elsewhere, and date is necessary to really chart trends that are more than a couple of years old, but still…still.)
As for impression: I very much wonder how much this has to do with the kind of fic I seek out. I don’t have a preference for who tops and bottoms 90-95% of the time when I’m picking fic to read, but do try to avoid fics that represent H and D in certain (heteronormative) ways, and have a preference for fics that explore the psychological aspects of sex, or that handle sex in novel ways, and also have some preference for short fics, and I wonder if all of that amounts to reading fewer fics with penetration. So I’m completely open to the idea that this observation reflects a personal preference rather than an absolute trend.
(This relates to my concern about sampling from rec lists. Reccers may not have overt preferences for who tops or bottoms, but may have other preferences that correlate with topping/bottoming or the presence/absence of penetrative sex.)
no subject
Date: 2015-03-21 12:33 am (UTC)And the nice thing about limiting it to a given fest or fests is that the date issue will not be a problem. Fics for fests are required to be original, so the fest date will be the earliest publication date and everything is simple.